Question / Help Why can't I stream on this PC?

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our_cs

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Intel-Core i7-4790 @ 3.6 Ghz
EVGA GTX 970
AsRock H97 Fatal1ty
16 GB DDR3 RAM

These are the specs of my computer, and I can't stream CS:GO in 30 FPS on basically the lowest settings possible despite having over 250 FPS in-game. I used to be able to stream 60 FPS in CS no problem, and once I got back into streaming again and downloaded OBS, I realized that my PC couldn't even stream anymore? If I turn any FPS above 30, even sometimes on 30, I will get a notification in the bottom left saying that says WARNING: High Encoding CPU Usage or something, but my CPU usage on my Task Manager is only ~60%.

Is this a bug with OBS or is my PC actually just too bad to stream CS because I don't really think it isn't. I've seen people stream fine on worse PC's.

The problem is the stream is really laggy and just pauses and is really choppy. How do I fix this?
 
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Fenrir

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First, this is the OBS Classic section. If you are still using OBS Classic, please note that this version is no longer supported. While we cannot and will not do anything to prevent you from using it, we cannot help with any issues that may come up. It is recommended that you update to OBS Studio. Further information on why you should update (and how): https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/how-to-easily-switch-to-obs-studio.55820/

If you are using OBS Studio, and just posted this to the wrong section, please provide a log so we can see what's going on: https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/please-post-a-log-with-your-issue-heres-how.23074/
 
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Fenrir said:
First, this is the OBS Classic section. If you are still using OBS Classic, please note that this version is no longer supported. While we cannot and will not do anything to prevent you from using it, we cannot help with any issues that may come up. It is recommended that you update to OBS Studio. Further information on why you should update (and how): https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/how-to-easily-switch-to-obs-studio.55820/

If you are using OBS Studio, and just posted this to the wrong section, please provide a log so we can see what's going on: https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/please-post-a-log-with-your-issue-heres-how.23074/
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I have tried using OBS Studio and I have the same problem on that. I will switch over there and try to copy my settings best and post the log. Where can I find it?
 
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Here is the log on OBS Studio.

16:38:36.371: CPU Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz
16:38:36.371: CPU Speed: 3600MHz
16:38:36.371: Physical Cores: 4, Logical Cores: 8
16:38:36.372: Physical Memory: 16335MB Total, 11330MB Free
16:38:36.372: Windows Version: 10.0 Build 15063 (revision: 296; 64-bit)
16:38:36.372: Running as administrator: false
16:38:36.372: Aero is Enabled (Aero is always on for windows 8 and above)
16:38:36.372: Portable mode: false
16:38:36.382: OBS 20.0.1 (64bit, windows)
16:38:36.382: ---------------------------------
16:38:36.401: ---------------------------------
16:38:36.401: audio settings reset:
16:38:36.401: samples per sec: 44100
16:38:36.401: speakers: 2
16:38:36.403: ---------------------------------
16:38:36.403: Initializing D3D11...
16:38:36.403: Available Video Adapters:
16:38:36.404: Adapter 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970
16:38:36.404: Dedicated VRAM: 4256628736
16:38:36.404: Shared VRAM: 4269361152
16:38:36.404: output 1: pos={0, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
16:38:36.404: output 2: pos={-1920, 0}, size={1920, 1080}, attached=true
16:38:36.406: Loading up D3D11 on adapter NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (0)
16:38:36.938: D3D11 loaded successfully, feature level used: 45056
16:38:37.595: ---------------------------------
16:38:37.595: video settings reset:
16:38:37.595: base resolution: 1920x1080
16:38:37.595: output resolution: 1280x720
16:38:37.595: downscale filter: Bicubic
16:38:37.595: fps: 30/1
16:38:37.595: format: NV12
16:38:37.597: Audio monitoring device:
16:38:37.597: name: Default
16:38:37.597: id: default
16:38:37.597: ---------------------------------
16:38:37.598: Required module function 'obs_module_load' in module '../../obs-plugins/64bit/chrome_elf.dll' not found, loading of module failed
16:38:37.622: [CoreAudio encoder]: Adding CoreAudio AAC encoder
16:38:37.623: [AMF] Encountered Exception during AMF initialization: Unable to load 'amfrt64.dll', error code 126.
16:38:37.623: Failed to initialize module 'enc-amf.dll'
16:38:37.629: Required module function 'obs_module_load' in module '../../obs-plugins/64bit/libcef.dll' not found, loading of module failed
16:38:37.630: Required module function 'obs_module_load' in module '../../obs-plugins/64bit/libEGL.dll' not found, loading of module failed
16:38:37.630: Required module function 'obs_module_load' in module '../../obs-plugins/64bit/libGLESv2.dll' not found, loading of module failed
16:38:37.631: Failed to load 'en-US' text for module: 'obs-browser.dll'
16:38:37.631: [browser_source: 'Version: 1.29.0']
16:38:37.639: NVENC supported
16:38:37.683: Couldn't find VLC installation, VLC video source disabled
16:38:37.688: No blackmagic support
16:38:37.807: ---------------------------------
16:38:37.807: Loaded Modules:
16:38:37.807: win-wasapi.dll
16:38:37.807: win-mf.dll
16:38:37.807: win-dshow.dll
16:38:37.807: win-decklink.dll
16:38:37.807: win-capture.dll
16:38:37.807: vlc-video.dll
16:38:37.807: text-freetype2.dll
16:38:37.807: rtmp-services.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-x264.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-vst.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-transitions.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-text.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-qsv11.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-outputs.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-filters.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-ffmpeg.dll
16:38:37.807: obs-browser.dll
16:38:37.807: image-source.dll
16:38:37.807: frontend-tools.dll
16:38:37.807: enc-amf.dll
16:38:37.807: coreaudio-encoder.dll
16:38:37.807: ---------------------------------
16:38:37.807: ==== Startup complete ===============================================
16:38:37.813: Service '' not found
16:38:37.814: No scene file found, creating default scene
16:38:37.814: All scene data cleared
16:38:37.814: ------------------------------------------------
16:38:37.830: WASAPI: Device 'Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)' initialized
16:38:37.834: WASAPI: Device 'Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)' initialized
16:38:37.835: Switched to scene 'Scene'
16:38:37.835: Failed to glob scene collections
16:38:37.835: CalculateFileHash: Failed to open file 'C:\Users\thesa\AppData\Roaming\obs-studio\updates\manifest.json': 2
16:38:37.884: adding 23 milliseconds of audio buffering, total audio buffering is now 23 milliseconds
16:39:02.193: Source 'Scene' renamed to 'cs'
16:39:08.413: rtmp-common.c: [initialize_output] Could not find service ''
16:39:08.414: rtmp-common.c: [initialize_output] Could not find service ''
16:39:08.434: rtmp-common.c: [initialize_output] Could not find service ''
16:42:49.554: Settings changed (general)
16:42:49.554: ------------------------------------------------
16:42:51.231: rtmp-common.c: [initialize_output] Could not find service ''
16:42:55.767: adding 23 milliseconds of audio buffering, total audio buffering is now 46 milliseconds
16:43:31.741: Settings changed (stream 1)
16:43:31.741: ------------------------------------------------
16:48:12.666: Settings changed (outputs)
16:48:12.666: ------------------------------------------------
16:48:35.182: WASAPI: Device 'Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)' Terminated
16:48:35.187: WASAPI: Device 'Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)' initialized
16:48:35.196: Settings changed (audio)
16:48:35.196: ------------------------------------------------
16:49:34.598: ---------------------------------
16:49:34.598: video settings reset:
16:49:34.598: base resolution: 1920x1080
16:49:34.598: output resolution: 1280x720
16:49:34.598: downscale filter: Bilinear
16:49:34.598: fps: 60/1
16:49:34.598: format: NV12
16:49:34.627: Settings changed (video)
16:49:34.627: ------------------------------------------------
16:50:07.550: ---------------------------------
16:50:07.550: video settings reset:
16:50:07.550: base resolution: 1920x1080
16:50:07.550: output resolution: 1280x720
16:50:07.550: downscale filter: Bilinear
16:50:07.550: fps: 60/1
16:50:07.550: format: NV12
16:50:07.616: Settings changed (advanced)
16:50:07.616: ------------------------------------------------
16:50:11.288: ==== Shutting down ==================================================
16:50:11.292: Switched to scene '(null)'
16:50:11.292: WASAPI: Device 'Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)' Terminated
16:50:11.295: WASAPI: Device 'Microphone (High Definition Audio Device)' Terminated
16:50:11.296: All scene data cleared
16:50:11.296: ------------------------------------------------
16:50:11.365: Freeing OBS context data
16:50:11.442: == Profiler Results =============================
16:50:11.442: run_program_init: 1684.39 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSApp::AppInit: 89.463 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┗OBSApp::InitLocale: 0.949 ms
16:50:11.442: ┗OBSApp::OBSInit: 1583.99 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣obs_startup: 1.018 ms
16:50:11.442: ┗OBSBasic::OBSInit: 1559.85 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::InitBasicConfig: 19.072 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::ResetAudio: 0.466 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::ResetVideo: 1195.07 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::InitOBSCallbacks: 0.013 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::InitHotkeys: 0.053 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣obs_load_all_modules: 210.223 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(coreaudio-encoder.dll): 22.551 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(enc-amf.dll): 0.289 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(frontend-tools.dll): 1.033 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(image-source.dll): 0.003 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-browser.dll): 0.087 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-ffmpeg.dll): 0.508 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-filters.dll): 0.012 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-outputs.dll): 0.007 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-qsv11.dll): 35.029 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-text.dll): 0.278 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-transitions.dll): 0.004 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-vst.dll): 0.001 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(obs-x264.dll): 0.002 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(rtmp-services.dll): 0.613 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(text-freetype2.dll): 0.29 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(vlc-video.dll): 0.026 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(win-capture.dll): 0.335 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(win-decklink.dll): 2.799 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(win-dshow.dll): 0.909 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(win-mf.dll): 115.344 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣obs_init_module(win-wasapi.dll): 0.009 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┗reset_win32_symbol_paths: 0.079 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::ResetOutputs: 5.166 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::CreateHotkeys: 0.026 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::InitService: 0.968 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣OBSBasic::InitPrimitives: 0.225 ms
16:50:11.442: ┗OBSBasic::Load: 20.774 ms
16:50:11.442: obs_hotkey_thread(25 ms): min=0.001 ms, median=0.003 ms, max=2.515 ms, 99th percentile=0.101 ms, 100% below 25 ms
16:50:11.442: audio_thread(Audio): min=0 ms, median=0.041 ms, max=0.197 ms, 99th percentile=0.077 ms
16:50:11.442: obs_video_thread(33.3333 ms): min=0.24 ms, median=0.744 ms, max=2.388 ms, 99th percentile=1.205 ms, 100% below 33.333 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣tick_sources: min=0 ms, median=0.005 ms, max=0.181 ms, 99th percentile=0.016 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣render_displays: min=0.001 ms, median=0.14 ms, max=1.648 ms, 99th percentile=0.306 ms
16:50:11.442: ┗output_frame: min=0.237 ms, median=0.591 ms, max=2.05 ms, 99th percentile=0.966 ms
16:50:11.442: ┣gs_context(video->graphics): min=0.097 ms, median=0.395 ms, max=1.853 ms, 99th percentile=0.692 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┣render_video: min=0.022 ms, median=0.053 ms, max=1.774 ms, 99th percentile=0.578 ms
16:50:11.442: ┃ ┃ ┣render_main_texture: min=0.002 ms, median=0.003 ms, max=0.096 ms, 99th percentile=0.014 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_output_texture: min=0.004 ms, median=0.015 ms, max=0.601 ms, 99th percentile=0.036 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_convert_texture: min=0.001 ms, median=0.01 ms, max=0.204 ms, 99th percentile=0.024 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┗stage_output_texture: min=0 ms, median=0.007 ms, max=1.728 ms, 99th percentile=0.534 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┣download_frame: min=0 ms, median=0.002 ms, max=0.775 ms, 99th percentile=0.509 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┗gs_flush: min=0.014 ms, median=0.053 ms, max=1.206 ms, 99th percentile=0.445 ms
16:50:11.443: ┗output_video_data: min=0.148 ms, median=0.187 ms, max=0.697 ms, 99th percentile=0.355 ms
16:50:11.443: video_thread(video): min=0 ms, median=0.001 ms, max=0.071 ms, 99th percentile=0.002 ms
16:50:11.443: OBSBasic::ResetOutputs: 0.27 ms
16:50:11.443: OBSBasic::ResetVideo: min=3.169 ms, median=0 ms, max=16.121 ms, 99th percentile=16.121 ms
16:50:11.443: obs_video_thread(16.6667 ms): min=0.48 ms, median=0.744 ms, max=31.182 ms, 99th percentile=1.301 ms, 99.7975% below 16.667 ms
16:50:11.443: ┣tick_sources: min=0.003 ms, median=0.005 ms, max=0.024 ms, 99th percentile=0.015 ms
16:50:11.443: ┣render_displays: min=0.106 ms, median=0.134 ms, max=1.981 ms, 99th percentile=0.276 ms
16:50:11.443: ┗output_frame: min=0.35 ms, median=0.598 ms, max=30.969 ms, 99th percentile=1.054 ms
16:50:11.443: ┣gs_context(video->graphics): min=0.219 ms, median=0.365 ms, max=30.752 ms, 99th percentile=0.703 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┣render_video: min=0.007 ms, median=0.052 ms, max=21.498 ms, 99th percentile=0.566 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_main_texture: min=0.002 ms, median=0.003 ms, max=0.024 ms, 99th percentile=0.013 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_output_texture: min=0.002 ms, median=0.013 ms, max=0.048 ms, 99th percentile=0.03 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_convert_texture: min=0.001 ms, median=0.009 ms, max=0.06 ms, 99th percentile=0.023 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┗stage_output_texture: min=0 ms, median=0.014 ms, max=21.461 ms, 99th percentile=0.533 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┣download_frame: min=0 ms, median=0.002 ms, max=0.697 ms, 99th percentile=0.468 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┗gs_flush: min=0.015 ms, median=0.051 ms, max=30.7 ms, 99th percentile=0.477 ms
16:50:11.443: ┗output_video_data: min=0.153 ms, median=0.228 ms, max=0.611 ms, 99th percentile=0.389 ms
16:50:11.443: video_thread(video): min=0 ms, median=0.001 ms, max=0.035 ms, 99th percentile=0.002 ms
16:50:11.443: obs_video_thread(16.6667 ms): min=0.416 ms, median=0.762 ms, max=1.472 ms, 99th percentile=1.322 ms, 100% below 16.667 ms
16:50:11.443: ┣tick_sources: min=0.001 ms, median=0.004 ms, max=0.02 ms, 99th percentile=0.016 ms
16:50:11.443: ┣render_displays: min=0.001 ms, median=0.133 ms, max=0.533 ms, 99th percentile=0.353 ms
16:50:11.443: ┗output_frame: min=0.298 ms, median=0.616 ms, max=1.217 ms, 99th percentile=1.181 ms
16:50:11.443: ┣gs_context(video->graphics): min=0.203 ms, median=0.371 ms, max=0.822 ms, 99th percentile=0.639 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┣render_video: min=0.007 ms, median=0.043 ms, max=0.614 ms, 99th percentile=0.508 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_main_texture: min=0.003 ms, median=0.003 ms, max=0.118 ms, 99th percentile=0.013 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_output_texture: min=0.001 ms, median=0.014 ms, max=0.038 ms, 99th percentile=0.033 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┣render_convert_texture: min=0.001 ms, median=0.011 ms, max=0.033 ms, 99th percentile=0.023 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┃ ┗stage_output_texture: min=0 ms, median=0.006 ms, max=0.559 ms, 99th percentile=0.465 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┣download_frame: min=0 ms, median=0.002 ms, max=0.558 ms, 99th percentile=0.517 ms
16:50:11.443: ┃ ┗gs_flush: min=0.019 ms, median=0.058 ms, max=0.671 ms, 99th percentile=0.411 ms
16:50:11.443: ┗output_video_data: min=0.165 ms, median=0.242 ms, max=0.753 ms, 99th percentile=0.694 ms
16:50:11.443: video_thread(video): min=0.001 ms, median=0.001 ms, max=0.018 ms, 99th percentile=0.002 ms
16:50:11.443: =================================================
16:50:11.443: == Profiler Time Between Calls ==================
16:50:11.443: obs_hotkey_thread(25 ms): min=24.862 ms, median=25.17 ms, max=27.585 ms, 77.2448% within ±2% of 25 ms (0% lower, 22.7552% higher)
16:50:11.443: obs_video_thread(33.3333 ms): min=32.277 ms, median=33.333 ms, max=34.379 ms, 99.9899% within ±2% of 33.333 ms (0.00507382% lower, 0.00507382% higher)
16:50:11.443: obs_video_thread(16.6667 ms): min=2.286 ms, median=16.667 ms, max=31.192 ms, 99.696% within ±2% of 16.667 ms (0.101317% lower, 0.202634% higher)
16:50:11.443: obs_video_thread(16.6667 ms): min=16.654 ms, median=16.667 ms, max=16.678 ms, 100% within ±2% of 16.667 ms (0% lower, 0% higher)
16:50:11.443: =================================================
16:50:11.485: Number of memory leaks: 1
 
Fenrir

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That log contains no stream/recording attempt. Try these steps:

Please post a link to a clean log file. To make a clean log file, first restart OBS, then start your stream/recording for ~30 seconds and stop it again. Make sure you replicate any issues as best you can, which means having any games/apps open and captured, etc. When you're done select Help > Log Files > Upload Current Log File. Copy the URL and paste it here.
 
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Fenrir said:
That log contains no stream/recording attempt. Try these steps:

Please post a link to a clean log file. To make a clean log file, first restart OBS, then start your stream/recording for ~30 seconds and stop it again. Make sure you replicate any issues as best you can, which means having any games/apps open and captured, etc. When you're done select Help > Log Files > Upload Current Log File. Copy the URL and paste it here.
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https://gist.github.com/48f21dabae16600e01a53e0dd2bec93f
 
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our_cs

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Fenrir said:
Code: 
17:08:47.295: Output 'adv_stream': Number of lagged frames due to rendering lag/stalls: 138 (2.2%)
17:08:47.295: Video stopped, number of skipped frames due to encoding lag: 1684/6118 (27.5%)

Looks like you're overloading your PC. Are you capping FPS in CS:GO at something reasonable (300 is not reasonable)?

Also, make sure that the Windows Game Mode is disabled. https://www.windowscentral.com/how-enable-disable-game-mode-windows-10-creators-update
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I don't understand why this just started randomly happening though. Use to be able to stream 60 FPS no problem. Also, OBS says my CPU usage is only ~6.9%. And yes, game mode is disabled. What would you recommend doing?

And no, I have no FPS cap. I want to get as much FPS as possible, which makes sense.
 
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And no, I have no FPS cap. I want to get as much FPS as possible, which makes sense.
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You mean you want to make it so that your computer can't do anything else but render frames you never see.
 
Fenrir

Fenrir

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our_cs said:
I don't understand why this just started randomly happening though. Use to be able to stream 60 FPS no problem. Also, OBS says my CPU usage is only ~6.9%. And yes, game mode is disabled. What would you recommend doing?

And no, I have no FPS cap. I want to get as much FPS as possible, which makes sense.
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Running a game without vertical sync or a frame rate limiter will frequently cause performance issues with OBS because your GPU will be maxed out. Enable vsync or set a reasonable frame rate limit that your GPU can handle without hitting 100% usage. If that's not enough you may also need to turn down some of the video quality options in the game.

It does not make sense to run at framerates higher than your display can handle.
 
d0dUxDJ

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Fenrir said:
Running a game without vertical sync or a frame rate limiter will frequently cause performance issues with OBS because your GPU will be maxed out. Enable vsync or set a reasonable frame rate limit that your GPU can handle without hitting 100% usage. If that's not enough you may also need to turn down some of the video quality options in the game.

It does not make sense to run at framerates higher than your display can handle.
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I'd like to add that for some games, framerates (even when the display can not handle them) matter for in-game related stuff (e.g. longer / higher jumps on quake engine games, like old Call of Duty titles, e.g. 125, 250, 333 fps). If vsync is off, higher framerates also help with matching to the refresh rate if I'm not mistaken, I used to use 120 fps on my 60 hz monitor and it looked smoother. Higher than that is basically nonsense though, I wholeheartedly agree.
 
Fenrir

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d0dUxDJ said:
I'd like to add that for some games, framerates (even when the display can not handle them) matter for in-game related stuff (e.g. longer / higher jumps on quake engine games, like old Call of Duty titles, e.g. 125, 250, 333 fps). If vsync is off, higher framerates also help with matching to the refresh rate if I'm not mistaken, I used to use 120 fps on my 60 hz monitor and it looked smoother. Higher than that is basically nonsense though, I wholeheartedly agree.
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Games that are actually affected by FPS in terms of gameplay are few and far between, and generally older games which aren't even going to be able to come close to maxing out a modern GPU. But yes, there are some out there. Any FPS higher than your monitors refresh rate is a waste, and if it looked smoother it was definitely placebo.
 
d0dUxDJ

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Fenrir said:
Games that are actually affected by FPS in terms of gameplay are few and far between, and generally older games which aren't even going to be able to come close to maxing out a modern GPU. But yes, there are some out there. Any FPS higher than your monitors refresh rate is a waste, and if it looked smoother it was definitely placebo.
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I was referring to this: https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQu...nt_more_fps_than_the_refresh_rate_of/d14idto/ although admittedly, it could be a wrong assumption to make, it does make sense to me. When I locked my fps with vsync the game didn't look as smooth as 120 fps and vsync off.
 
Fenrir

Fenrir

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And anyone who claims they can actually tell a difference with the incredibly short amount of time monitors take to refresh the image is, again, a placebo.

I've heard all the arguments, and while they're technically correct, nobody can actually tell a difference in blind tests.
 
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